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  Millions now living will never die (orginally "may" never die) was the WTS lying

  by blondie in

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  this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.

  the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.

  one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.

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  Nathan Natas

  "That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die." -- HPL
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  Hello - New Member

  by NotAnointed in

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  i just wanted to intoroduce myself.

  i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.

  my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.

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  Nathan Natas

  Welcome!

  As an non-practicing atheist, I weep into my pillow that you cling to your imaginary invisible friends. I will pray for you.
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  Most Horrible Murder Done by JWs in Rep of Korea...

  by intropist in

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  http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2016/08/113_212343.html.

  korean ex-jw brothers contacted the police and hinted to them that this murder could be related with wt's evil policy of shunning because.

  father was an elder (ministerial overseer).

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  Steve Hassan. Can some one verify if this is true.

  by joe134cd in

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  https://culteducation.com/group/1289-general-information/8227-disclaimer-regarding-steve-hassan.html.

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  Nathan Natas

  Did you think that Steve Hassan made his living selling hot dogs from a cart?

  THIS is his career!

  I am constantly AMAZED and AMUSED by the number of whining freeloaders who think everything should be given to them for free. They expect boneless BBQ'd chickens to fly into their mouths!

  Well, time to pay the piper, crybabies! FREEDOM ain't FREE!

  And for those who complain that the deprogramming sessions were ineffective: that just demonstrates how "devoted" (aka fucked up) you cultic family member is! ...and you're blaming the deprogrammer for that?

  Investigate any of the other anti-cult practitioners out there and tell me if you find ONE who is a totally beyond reproach. They are the "Yin" to a cult's "Yang."
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  "You Can Do Just Enough Ministry To Dislike It"

  by pale.emperor in

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  when you were "in" did you ever actually enjoy the ministry?

  and i made no secret about it.

  instead i would joke about me feather knocking, and made sure i had my bible in hand so as they come to the door they know what im about so they can shut me down before i even start.. i always wondered how or why there were people who enjoyed it.

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  Deep, deep within me sleeps the dessicated ghost of the "Dub of Witness Past" that I once was.

  I was taught Watchtower Crap & Pablum since I was about 8, I was dunked under the [ha ha] "old covenant" baptismal oath in 1964. I didn't need college because I read AWAKE! magazine.

  Reading your opening post raised the hackles on that dessicated decrepit ghoul within me; to think that ANYONE would speak openly of finding no joy in the D2D work! HOW DARE YOU!

  Of course from where I am now this honesty is welcome, refreshing and fully justified, but there was a time...
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  The End is near!..for my great, great,great grandfather...

  by TTWSYF in

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  2. beliefs

  so it occurred to me how crazy the wts is and has been.. if i am 25 years old and my parents had me when they were 25, my grandparents were 25 when they had my parents, and their parents were 25 and so on and we were witnesses, what would we think?.

  my point?.

  my great, great, great grandparents were around 25 years old when the judge was promoting the end of times in the 1870s.

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  "when the Judge was promoting the end of times in the 1870s."

  You really owe it to yourself to get a more accurate grasp of JW history; lest you sound silly.
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  Will the UN turn on Religion?

  by no-zombie in

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  2. beliefs

  as all witnesses know, the opening gambit of the great tribulation will occur when the united nations turns on organized religion to devastate them and leave them naked of people and resources.

  however, as jehovah's judgement day has been spoken of as being "imminent", the question that can be fairly asked ... 'is the united nations organization actually in a position to act as god's destroyer of false religion?

  while i have no doubt that most within that organization had in the past tried to make the lives of the desperate better, the united nations has unfortunately now become a weak and underfunded political eunuch.

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  Given the record of The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society being 100% WRONG with their "Bible-based" speculations, what justification do you have for suggesting they might be RIGHT about this speculation?

  I'll say it now, in plain language: there will NEVER be a "Great Tribulation;" there will never be a "not-so-great tribulation."
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  Tell me if I'm right or wrong

  by Chook in

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  jws say they can go anywhere in the world and they " know" that they would be shown hospitality from their fellow brothers.

  of all my years as a jw i found this wasn't the case.

  i honestly believe that if i turned up at any of my fellow apostates on here house and said hi i'm chook can we have a coffee, the response would be how many sugars..

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  Nathan Natas

  Q.: Tell me if I'm right or wrong.

  A.: Yes, you are.
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  Oh the irony! The elder, a car accident, and me....

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. experiences

  oh this is just worth sharing!.

  so , as many know, it has been two years since i have attended any meetings, conventions, etc....nothing...cold turkey.. the hassles and problems the elders threw our way were monumental....so many details i could share, but suffice it to say, we stood firm and kept our dignity and poise and reminded them of "appropriate boundaries ".

  one elder in particular has since spared no effort in ensuring that malicious gossip and slander has been spread so that witnesses have avoided us like the plague!.

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  Nathan Natas

  You did the right thing. And why? Because you do not follow the teachings of men.

  You have surpassed them.
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  Does anyone know what this is?

  by Tameria2001 in

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  yesterday my sister cut her foot on a piece of metal that was sticking out of my yard.

  i've lived in my home for almost 8 years now, and well i'm guessing this thing must have worked it's way up to the surface or something, never seen this thing before.

  i started to dig it up, and the thing just kept getting bigger and bigger.

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  Nathan Natas

  I don't think you can get tetanus from touching a rusty object. Rust is not a pathogen.

  The problem arises when a rusty, dirty object pierces your skin, so DON"T DO THAT.

  "Spores of the bacteria that cause tetanus, Clostridium tetani, are found in soil, dust and animal feces. When they enter a deep flesh wound, spores grow into bacteria that can produce a powerful toxin, tetanospasmin, which impairs the nerves that control your muscles (motor neurons)." -- the InterWeb